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Grouping Design Passenger Carrying Carriages - 1970s Survivors Disposals

The publication in the 1970's of the 'Coaching Stock of British Railways' books heightened interest in the small number of passenger carrying carriages still in use on the BR network built to grouping era designs. These being the 'Golden Arrow' Pullman Cars, LNER Gresley and Thompson Buffet Cars and LMSR Period III Sleeping Cars. Condemnation and disposal details for many of these were given in the 'Railway Observer' but the disposal of a few went unrecorded. What appears here is a 'work in progress' to list the disposals of those that were listed in the 1972 edition of the 'Coaching Stock of British Railways' along with others built to the same diagrams by then already condemned.

Contributions from those who have observations or other information is very much welcomed. When you get a chance please have a trawl through your notebooks and photo albums, it just might be that you visited scrap yard or passed some exchange sidings when no one else was about and have a unique observation. As more information is received the entries will be revised to increase their accuracy.

In the following listings, where information is available, the location on the British Rail network from where the vehicle was despatched from for disposal is given. Where a "disposed from" date is included, this is the date recorded for initial movement. It should though be noted that it could take days, if not weeks, to reach the intended destination. If a date is preceded by 'p' then the date being referred to is a BR period rather than a calendar date. Where preservation locations have changed names the most recent is normally quoted. Similarly, where Counties are quoted the current name is used.

Golden Arrow Pullman Cars

LMSR/BR Period III Sleeping Cars

LNER/BR Buffet Cars

Photographs and other information will be welcomed by Peter Hall

last updated: 12/05/14